Ding Dong

09h16 Monday
29th January
2007
johannesburg, cbd, troye street

You remember that song by Joe Nina, '... lo babes o'shaya ding dong.'  Yeah, nuff said.

Alas,  the popularity of this site, is freaking me out.  I was at Party People and Siki says to me, I heard you put a picture of me on your site.  Then another girl, says to me, "... I am your groupie."   Say what?

Akala, Kwaito will never be the next wave of music, until the day that the music has the ability to criticise itself.  Peer review I call it.

The good news is that Mokete explained what 'must reaction' is and this previous weekend was a must reaction.

Revolt. 

25 comments
  1. I bought flowers @ 00:24am this morning and they did the trick, my love was on some "must reaction" I had to calm her down.
  2. I don't think i've seen Jozi so clear, where is everyone?Probably out researching Newton's third law.
  3. I was always fascinated by Architercture. I think if you would really stand and look at an old building, you would probably crack the story about that building without having to read about its history. Well Tebogo made me realise.
  4. I am listening to one of the track from the Doctors Advocate album [THE GAME]. The title of the track is Compton ' Gangstar Boogie '.

    Where have i head that before? Gangsters do not dance they Boogie. I wonder what that means??
  5. Looks like a coup de tate is about to take place and everybody's indoors waiting for the mzansi's che and fidel to come marching in
  6. i was kiddin about the kwaito thing but what u mean that a genre cant be the biggest thing until it can criticise itself. do kwaito artistes have to say kwaito is dead for it to blow up?
  7. no, not dead. But they have to be able to say, that this track by so and so is wack and that other track by another so and so it tight, because of 1/2/3 or so reasons.

    If Kwaito is a musical art form there must be a way to appreciate it and depreciate it based on certain criteria, and the recording artist must start doing that including the media (radio especially).

    To keep saying that Kwaito is tight because it represent the South African youth culture, is not enough.

    But then again, I think Kwaito is wack.
  8. There is a thin line between Kwaito and Mzansi HipHop. Mzansi HipHop evolved (derivative of) from kwaito. I think I can relate more to Kwaito than COLDPLAY muzik. GuFFY and Mandla Spikiri make good Kwaito sound.... so I think you should listen more to their muzik. Black cultural beat. I can offer you a copy of Kwaito MP3 and tell me what you think?????
  9. no! i don't want kwaito. i am not going to listen to it. i have listened to it before, i don't like it, not with green eggs and ham.

    but ta for the offer though, I'll stick to my love for hiphop.
  10. to explore this kwaito thing some more, i get the feelin u hatin it just cos u told urself u hate it. can you honestly say u've never ever even once found urself boppin ur head to some kwaito tune, honestly? no point in hating sthing just for the sake of hating - better to reserve the strong feelings for sthing worth hatin - like bad music made by anybody
  11. I was liking that must reaction theory more when I didn't understand it. It was just funny that way. Now to think that there was a proper thought process in establishing the theory...just makes it suck. So I choose not to remember the explanation.

    MUST REACTION, hahahahhahahahha.
    See...it's funny.

    *stay with me here

    But Lebz...I want to understand what you dislike about kwaito so much. Is it the instrumentals...do you just hate the sound of it? Is it the culture? Is it the senseless lyrics...

    Do you remember the charlie chaplin skits? What about dinner for one - that movie or supposed comedy that the SABC used to play every year around new years or christmas. It was all about laughing at the simple things that we laugh at on a daily basis. If somebody falls, drunk people behaving silly or whatever.

    MUST REACTION...is funny. It's fucken hilarious. It's fun. Similarly...kwaito - however dumb...mindless it is - it can be fun. So you enjoy the funness of it. That's my rationale...I won't actually go out and buy the stuff - but when it plays I will dance to it and have a good time doing that too.

    Akala has a point...can you really say why you hate it? Or did you just decide you hate it and will therefore not be open to it regardless of whether you might actually like a certain tune...
  12. ... hmmm... let me ask y'all a question then. Are you asking me these questions (and at the same time making assumptions) because you want to know, or is it because it makes not sense why a black man like myself born and bred in a South African townships can hate Kwaito, that which is a resultant of our South African culture?

    What if I was to say I hate country (or lekker boere techno?), would you be asking me the same questions, or would you assume its an okay recourse for a South African black man to hate this specific music?

    Now on hate, hate is a strong word, but music evokes emotion, and the emotion I get from Kwaito is hate, hate the music. That requires no justification,,, If I hate something I hate it and Kwaito it is. However, Kwaito plays on radio, at clubs, at bars, at parties and in peoples cars, whilst I am there, so I get to hear shit, and I still hate that shit, barring Thebe's first album, tempy pusher (i think, that was dope).

    Now, to ask (and probably in the undertones you are demanding) that I listen to this music. To assume I've never listen to it, is pure ignorance on your part, akala. Point in case, read the first line of this 'photo-entry', I have come a long way baby, a long way, and through that journey I found what I love and that is hiphop, and like love I will hold on to that love jealously.

    word.
  13. Hip Hop is about culture and so is Kwaito, If u hate kwaito does that mean u r in denial your omn(Culture) and rather prefer to adopt one(thats not your own)? I am a huge Hip Hop fan, I have 7 albums of The Roots and not a single album from Arthur. I believe both Music have the Rhythm And Poetry (RAP)element, the only difference is the story telling and the beat. Zola is a kwaito star but he raps in all of his songs. PS. I hope this doesn't sound like an attack on your preference. I am more interested in what makes you not to like Kwaito. Amen
  14. I think I am gonna listen to "Pride" by Arrested Dev. 2nite. I am listening to Hope by Nas. If Kwaito dies there is a pretty chance that u r reason why it dies. Live Kwaito Live. Stay Kwaito Stay.
    From a BIG Kwaito and Hip Hop fan.
  15. if you go against the grain, people are bound to wonder why Lebo. That's just a general rule.
    So I want to know why - I want to understand it.

    Hate is a strong word...so I'm wondering why you have such strong feelings over something so trivial.
    I hated Mzekezeke at some point as much as I did Daily Sun because I think both plays on people's ignorance or rather lack of education. So I hated (still do) that people would use that and make money out of it. So I wondered if that was the same for you...relating to kwaito that is.

    Mara wena you just hate it. Fair enough.
  16. ... and what is wrong with rejecting your own culture? does that no signify change, does is it not signify progress?

    ... are we under obligation to follow our culture, our heritage, is it our responsibility to do so, is it something we need to do? does culture not evolve? what does it take for it to evolve? does the evolutionary results have to be unique? can one culture replace another? does knowing about ones culture mean I have to part of it, and I have to live it?

    ... do I not have the liberty to decide what I want, what culture I choose to part of? or am I just a pawn in the culture, does the culture care if I reflect it? is it important for one to have culture? to represent it? to grow it? to change it?

    ... what is culture, grand grand?
  17. just to drive the point home...

    imagine this (true story)...white man reckons he hates black people. All of them...he's seen them around town...he's interacted with some of them (what he reckons is most) and he just hates them none the less. Just because...nje. They got an ugly nose. So he hates them...all of them. Not the one who killed his nephew...not the one who raped his wife...or the one gardener who jacked his car last nigh...just somaar die hele lot.

    Hate...is a strong word.

    Next thing you know Lebo will be burning music shops in demonstration...OR killing kwaito stars...NO MORE KWAITO...

    *I know...a little extreme BUUUUUURRRRRRRT you get my point? Yes, No?
  18. ...and love is not a strong word? is it not true that we hate because we love something else. The white man (you are referring to) hates black, die hele lot, because he loves the existance without black people,,, i'd say love is also a strong word, but why is it allowed to reign free?

    ... alas i digress ...

    I'd like to think inasmuch as I can love thing, I can hate. To hate is not to act, an action can be justified by reason, not emotion, but emotion becomes the irrational reason for acting out something. (wow, philosophy 201, yeah, so i learnt something after all).

    So, what I am saying is, to hate Kwaito (aside: i keep typing quite-o, instead of Kwaitio) does not mean, I will act out against the music and it's creators, it means I prefer not to listen to it,,, plus,,, I donnot relate to Quite-o, it is not a reflection of me, but of the youth collectively.

    My history is far from common, plus, it does not appeal to what I inspires me when I listen to music, it does not inspire me to dance, to reflect, to imagine, to dream, to do all those arty-farty things that music does to the soul.

    It is not. Sorry, I am just no buying the story that y'all are selling, but as NguJaz used to say to me, '... you are not the target market'.

    I agree with that. Kwaito aint my ish.
  19. That was beautiful.
    I understand.
    Thanks for taking out the time to explain...really it makes sense.
    The freakin music don't inspire you - that's beautiful.

  20. On your digression (is there such a word) tip...I'm not sure if love is the opposite of hate. Doesn't feel like quite as strong a word don't you think.

    I love you Lebogang. Did you feel that? Nothing huh...

    I HATE YOU!

    Felt that?
    Yes? No?

  21. ... felt nothing, for both.
  22. ... I am not sure about opposites,,, but I think they tend to evoke the best/worst of human existence.
  23. I suppose you wouldn't feel it. Makes sense, cause they are just words (love/hate) aren't they...if you had reason to believe that I did love you or hate you...you might have felt something.

    Ke tshwere ke tlala.
  24. I'm sorry to hogg your light. But this still cracks me up too much.

    "If the goverment "commands" poeple must reaction, clockwise and they must make sure they do it in 360 degrees causing REVOLUTION."

    Like what was Mokete thinking..."and they must make sure they do it in 360 degrees causing revolution"

    Kwakwakwakaka - freakin hilarious.
  25. ye, thats funny, like I know exactly what he's saying even if it don't make sense. amazing.